Take a picture next time lol. Then they can't say you're making it up.

That's wild, @casey145, I always found swapping rags just made more wet mess to deal with later.

Hearing people argue about this in a coffee shop is wild. I'm a big planner too, but the idea of just wandering gives me serious stress. I picture myself exactly like @nathan_hill, digging a sad little trench on a slope at sunset because I got cocky. My last trip I had a plan, but a creek was way too high to cross. Had to change it fast. That's the only kind of "figure it out" I can handle, not a total free-for-all from the start.